<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1337515937571156286</id><updated>2011-04-21T19:15:41.969-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Water4Gas Experiment</title><subtitle type='html'>With the price of gas continuing to rise, and the increasing bad news about the future of the price of oil, I decided to do an experiment.  I have been hearing about using water fuel cells to increase gas mileage.  This is my record of how it works in reality.</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://water4gasexperiment.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1337515937571156286/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://water4gasexperiment.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Jim Anderson</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05490853376244724046</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_nzp3u068eB0/R9_o7NOeeSI/AAAAAAAAAAM/IrQcob3VUOE/S220/Jim2website64pixels.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>5</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1337515937571156286.post-890209252629067916</id><published>2008-09-14T08:12:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-09-14T08:20:04.760-07:00</updated><title type='text'>The Latest</title><content type='html'>Well, it has been awhile since I posted.  I've been distracted with a lot of other things lately.  However, I seem to still be at the point of leaning towards having a prebuilt system installed.  I'm not a do it yourself kind of driver.  I don't tinker around with my car.  I don't have time for that.  However, I want to improve my mileage and save money.  So I've been thinking about the options.  The Water4Gas group is making &lt;a href="http://water4gas.com/OPEC.HTM"&gt;some changes &lt;/a&gt;to improve their results.  It has to do with regulating things differently on the gas used in the cars that do this.  In many cars, the computers in the cars will pump additional gas when using these systems and cannot accept the conditions that create greater milage.  So the gas mileage results don't improve much.  They are coming up with a solution for this.  So, I'm watching to see what happens when this is ready.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1337515937571156286-890209252629067916?l=water4gasexperiment.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://water4gasexperiment.blogspot.com/feeds/890209252629067916/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1337515937571156286&amp;postID=890209252629067916' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1337515937571156286/posts/default/890209252629067916'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1337515937571156286/posts/default/890209252629067916'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://water4gasexperiment.blogspot.com/2008/09/latest.html' title='The Latest'/><author><name>Jim Anderson</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05490853376244724046</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_nzp3u068eB0/R9_o7NOeeSI/AAAAAAAAAAM/IrQcob3VUOE/S220/Jim2website64pixels.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1337515937571156286.post-629113569013694936</id><published>2008-07-26T20:01:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-26T20:34:13.444-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Woodley Park Event</title><content type='html'>Every Saturday there is an event at Woodley Park in Van Nuys California where a number of car owners who are using this technology that demonstrate the system in actual cars.  Most of them are there every week to promote their business ventures into this newfound opportunity.  However, it is an excellent place to get a firsthand look at the technology at work.  You still have to take their word for it on their experience with increased gas mileage, but you can ask lots of questions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I did find out that using multiple cells is a way to increase the amount of hydrogen production, but there is a diminishing return.  If you get a certain gas mileage improvement with one, the second one brings a smaller improvement, maybe 50% as much of an improvement as the first one.  So that makes installing the max of six cells less attractive.  It might be best to install two or three. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I also found that there are quite a number of people who are manufacturing kits and selling them for those interested.  It simplifies having to go out and shop for all the parts.  There are also a number of installers, so for about $200 you can pay someone else to install it for you.  However, if you install the Do It Yourself kit, it is best to do it yourself so that you know what is going on.  You learn how the technology works and why your car may behave a bit differently and what to do about it.  If it stops working very well for some reason, you'll be able to figure it out.  You will also be able to use your own ingenuity to make improvements.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you really don't want to do the installation, there is a few companies who are manufacturing specially designed versions that they have installers for, and are more extensively tested.  They are taking a more "professional" approach to selling this technology, but less flexible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So my journey continues.  I haven't decided what I'm going to do yet.  I might take the more proven route if the results are comparable enough to  justify paying the extra money, and recognize my limitations as a non-mechanic.  But, if it is worth spending less money and simple enough to install, while being safe and legal, I might try installing a kit.  I'm just not sure yet.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1337515937571156286-629113569013694936?l=water4gasexperiment.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://water4gasexperiment.blogspot.com/feeds/629113569013694936/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1337515937571156286&amp;postID=629113569013694936' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1337515937571156286/posts/default/629113569013694936'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1337515937571156286/posts/default/629113569013694936'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://water4gasexperiment.blogspot.com/2008/07/woodley-park-event.html' title='Woodley Park Event'/><author><name>Jim Anderson</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05490853376244724046</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_nzp3u068eB0/R9_o7NOeeSI/AAAAAAAAAAM/IrQcob3VUOE/S220/Jim2website64pixels.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1337515937571156286.post-2964940686093361069</id><published>2008-07-20T21:50:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-20T22:02:47.838-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Water4Gas Demos</title><content type='html'>Before I plunk down my money for a complete Water4Gas kit, I'm going to attend the meeting in Woodley Park, Van Nuys, in Los Angeles this weekend.  I understand that I should be able to see actual vehicles that have been using this technology, and be able to talk to the owners and see it at work.  I'll report back what I find. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After reading the book and most of the volumes of information on the VIP website, I feel like I have a better feel for what this is all about.  I think this is an honest effort to create a grass roots effort to educate the public on a technology that has been severely repressed because of its threat to more profitable forms of energy - for the energy industry that is.  I have an inkling that it has been suppressed for real and is still being repressed.  There is evidence that there is a way to create enough power from water to fully run a vehicle on this technology.  Likely at a low cost.  What we "experimenters" need to do is to all discover how that can be done and share it with everyone we can without letting our greed get in the way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At this point, I need to figure out whether I should start with a single "electrolyzer" or more.  Six is the recommended max.  So that is one goal for this weekend, to see where the best place to start is.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1337515937571156286-2964940686093361069?l=water4gasexperiment.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://water4gasexperiment.blogspot.com/feeds/2964940686093361069/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1337515937571156286&amp;postID=2964940686093361069' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1337515937571156286/posts/default/2964940686093361069'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1337515937571156286/posts/default/2964940686093361069'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://water4gasexperiment.blogspot.com/2008/07/water4gas-demos.html' title='Water4Gas Demos'/><author><name>Jim Anderson</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05490853376244724046</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_nzp3u068eB0/R9_o7NOeeSI/AAAAAAAAAAM/IrQcob3VUOE/S220/Jim2website64pixels.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1337515937571156286.post-7249479331429554643</id><published>2008-07-09T07:54:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-09T08:10:28.389-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Reading The Book</title><content type='html'>I got the e-book from &lt;a href="http://www.thefuelofthefuture.com/"&gt;http://www.thefuelofthefuture.com/&lt;/a&gt; and there is a lot of reading to do. I have done a speed read of the first book at this point and have browsed the VIP page that comes with it. The first book is very good. The book can be downloaded as a PDF file or viewed online. The online version is periodically updated. The nature of this information does make the online book preferable. The main thrust of the first book is how to install and maintain the system and how to build it yourself. What is cool about this is that you don't have to go out and buy all the parts to assemble yourself if you don't want to. For about $100 extra, you can go to the "free marketplace" and find companies selling the system. That can save a lot of time. I'm seriously considering purchasing the system this way. You can also find installers. I found one in California, but they are charging too much for my taste. I'll probably install it myself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is also a Saturday meeting in Los Angeles where I can see cars with this system installed and talk to the owners of the vehicles. It happens every Saturday. I need to plan to attend one of these meetings to get a better feel for this before I spend any more money. I figure that if I can cut my gas bill in half, that would save me about $120 per car as the price of gas stands today. My goal is to exceed that if possible. If I don't save that much in gas mileage, I'll just keep tweaking. It seems that is what this intended for.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some of the reading on the vast materials on the VIP webpage, I read about the intrigue behind inventors who have been successful creating cars that run 100% on these water fuel cells. Apparently the technology has been around for close to 100 years, but diligently suppressed in favor of the more profitable gasoline technology we now use. I'm continuing to read....&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1337515937571156286-7249479331429554643?l=water4gasexperiment.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://water4gasexperiment.blogspot.com/feeds/7249479331429554643/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1337515937571156286&amp;postID=7249479331429554643' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1337515937571156286/posts/default/7249479331429554643'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1337515937571156286/posts/default/7249479331429554643'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://water4gasexperiment.blogspot.com/2008/07/got-book.html' title='Reading The Book'/><author><name>Jim Anderson</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05490853376244724046</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_nzp3u068eB0/R9_o7NOeeSI/AAAAAAAAAAM/IrQcob3VUOE/S220/Jim2website64pixels.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1337515937571156286.post-7381786214108149116</id><published>2008-07-05T22:05:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-05T22:19:30.873-07:00</updated><title type='text'>The Water4Gas e-Book</title><content type='html'>Okay, I finally decided to take a chance. I downloaded the e-book from &lt;a href="http://www.thefuelofthefuture.com/"&gt;http://www.thefuelofthefuture.com/&lt;/a&gt; I have browsed the first book. I'm not a mechanic. In fact I rarely do any work on my car myself. I always take my car back to the dealer for service. I'm a little concerned about what their response is going to be to this modification.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In my research on this, I couldn't find any websites that documented other experiments by regular people.  There was one website that is documenting a &lt;a href="http://www.certifiedmastertech.com/wordpress/"&gt;certified mechanic's &lt;/a&gt;experience with the system, but that was all I could find.  So I figured I'd document my experience as a non-mechanic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have a 1998 Acura TL 2.5. So from what I've read, this might not get the kinds of results that are reported on older cars. However, it seems that in the book there are some improvements to the system that have been getting as much as 60 mpg in these newer vehicles. Mine isn't that new, but isn't the old gas guzzlers of the 80s either.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I might be using a mechanic to do the installation. I haven't decided yet. I'm going to read the books first. At first glance, I think it would be a good idea to make sure it is done correctly and safely.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Stay tuned for updates.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1337515937571156286-7381786214108149116?l=water4gasexperiment.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://water4gasexperiment.blogspot.com/feeds/7381786214108149116/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1337515937571156286&amp;postID=7381786214108149116' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1337515937571156286/posts/default/7381786214108149116'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1337515937571156286/posts/default/7381786214108149116'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://water4gasexperiment.blogspot.com/2008/07/water4gas-e-book.html' title='The Water4Gas e-Book'/><author><name>Jim Anderson</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05490853376244724046</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_nzp3u068eB0/R9_o7NOeeSI/AAAAAAAAAAM/IrQcob3VUOE/S220/Jim2website64pixels.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry></feed>
